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Prioritise Traffic for IP
by QCS Group - Infrastructure 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Hi All, Wondering if this is possible, how do I prioritize traffic for 4 IP's on the network, is this possible? Situation is as below. Customer has a child care system, at 3PM-4PM parents check-in/check-out on 4 iPads. During this time I want the 4 devices to have the highest priority on traffic so that there is no timeouts. Any ideas? Thanks Marius ________________________________ Thinking of updating your phone system? Ask us about our "Cloud Based PABX" solution before you do anything. ________________________________

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Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ??
by Paul Julian 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

Hi All, I urgently need 4 or preferably 5 of these routers for an urgent job and unfortunately they are out of stock for a couple of weeks still. Would anybody have stock that they could sell me by any chance ? Thanks Paul

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 30, Issue 6
by David Ryan 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Hi Karl, regarding finding out which band your mobile is using. What type of phone do you have? I have an LG G3 with Marshmallow. If I type in a particular code, I get to the engineering mode. After going through a few menus, I end up at a spot where I can tell the actual band I am using. Some apps available for LTE stuff need root access to show the bands. Regards, Dave. dsryan(a)rjs.com.au 0402 054 426 On 24 August 2016 at 12:08, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. > mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. finding out which bands are inuse? (Karl Auer) > 2. Re: finding out which bands are inuse? > (Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)) > 3. Re: finding out which bands are inuse? > (Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)) > 4. Re: finding out which bands are inuse? (Karl Auer) > 5. Re: finding out which bands are inuse? (Tim Warnock) > 6. Re: finding out which bands are inuse? (Tim Warnock) > 7. Re: finding out which bands are inuse? (Karl Auer) > 8. Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ?? (Paul Julian) > 9. Re: Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ?? (Matt Perkins) > 10. Re: Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ?? (Paul Julian) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:41:37 +1000 > From: Karl Auer <kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au> > To: MikroTik Public <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > Message-ID: <1471045297.21850.33.camel(a)nullarbor.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It turns out that the place I wanted to deploy an SXT-LTE does in fact > have 4G! Yay! But I note that the SXT-LTE supports only "the popular > LTE FDD bands 3 (1800MHz) and 7 (2600MHz)". > > Does all 4G always use those bands, or do I have to check whether the > 4G in this area uses those bands? If so, how? > > Regards, K. > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 > http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 > > GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 > Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:14:22 +1000 > From: "Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)" > <jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > Message-ID: > <CAATJ+fvimSczAJVhLKAKSF3h0Xo6OC4FA_UV6eyS2FpJ+K3_5w(a)mail.gmail. > com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Go to http://www.rfnsa.com.au/ and try find your local towers and see what > frequencies each carrier has listed for that tower. > > On 13 August 2016 at 09:41, Karl Auer <kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au> wrote: > > > It turns out that the place I wanted to deploy an SXT-LTE does in fact > > have 4G! Yay! But I note that the SXT-LTE supports only "the popular > > LTE FDD bands 3 (1800MHz) and 7 (2600MHz)". > > > > Does all 4G always use those bands, or do I have to check whether the > > 4G in this area uses those bands? If so, how? > > > > Regards, K. > > > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 > > http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 > > > > GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 > > Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:16:55 +1000 > From: "Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)" > <jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > Message-ID: > <CAATJ+ft3yt7591MiQx3AE4unjD4V4je5Q6JHC7eG39= > KazKitA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > For example, my local tower has the following listed from the EME report > PDF. > > Vodafone GSM900, WCDMA900, LTE850 > > Telstra GSM900, WCDMA850, LTE700, LTE1800 > > NBN Co LTE2300 > > Optus LTE700, LTE2600, GSM900, WCDMA900, WCDMA2100 > > > On 13 August 2016 at 09:41, Karl Auer <kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au> wrote: > > > It turns out that the place I wanted to deploy an SXT-LTE does in fact > > have 4G! Yay! But I note that the SXT-LTE supports only "the popular > > LTE FDD bands 3 (1800MHz) and 7 (2600MHz)". > > > > Does all 4G always use those bands, or do I have to check whether the > > 4G in this area uses those bands? If so, how? > > > > Regards, K. > > > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 > > http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 > > > > GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 > > Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:44:43 +1000 > From: Karl Auer <kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au> > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > Message-ID: <1471056283.21850.64.camel(a)nullarbor.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 11:14 +1000, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) > wrote: > > Go to http://www.rfnsa.com.au/ and try find your local towers and see > > what frequencies each carrier has listed for that tower. > > Thanks. Apart from showing the tower (site 2549002) and giving me > contact details for Optus, there is no further information. > > Is it possible to check with eg a mobile phone? Mine doesn't seem to > show that level of detail about the carrier. > > Regards, K. > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 > http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 > > GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 > Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 03:03:00 +0000 > From: Tim Warnock <timoid(a)timoid.org> > To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > Message-ID: > <C978DD0EE401174299AA691E12A50256169043DE(a)hermes.timoid.lan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Nothing there. http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_ > lookup?pSITE_ID=34789 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Karl Auer > Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2016 12:45 PM > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > > On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 11:14 +1000, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) > wrote: > > Go to http://www.rfnsa.com.au/ and try find your local towers and see > > what frequencies each carrier has listed for that tower. > > Thanks. Apart from showing the tower (site 2549002) and giving me > contact details for Optus, there is no further information. > > Is it possible to check with eg a mobile phone? Mine doesn't seem to > show that level of detail about the carrier. > > Regards, K. > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 > http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 > > GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 > Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 03:15:59 +0000 > From: Tim Warnock <timoid(a)timoid.org> > To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > Message-ID: > <C978DD0EE401174299AA691E12A5025616904419(a)hermes.timoid.lan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=204301 > > appears to be the nearest site by diameter (9km) from boral site that has > mobile communications on it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Tim Warnock > Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2016 1:03 PM > To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > > Nothing there. http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_ > lookup?pSITE_ID=34789 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Karl Auer > Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2016 12:45 PM > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > > On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 11:14 +1000, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) > wrote: > > Go to http://www.rfnsa.com.au/ and try find your local towers and see > > what frequencies each carrier has listed for that tower. > > Thanks. Apart from showing the tower (site 2549002) and giving me > contact details for Optus, there is no further information. > > Is it possible to check with eg a mobile phone? Mine doesn't seem to > show that level of detail about the carrier. > > Regards, K. > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 > http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 > > GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 > Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:11:07 +1000 > From: Karl Auer <kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au> > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] finding out which bands are inuse? > Message-ID: <1471061467.21850.67.camel(a)nullarbor.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 03:03 +0000, Tim Warnock wrote: > > Nothing there. http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_loo > > kup?pSITE_ID=34789 > > I'm missing something: What does?SITE_ID=34789 have to do with the site > I identified as?site 2549002? > > I mean - how did you get there from here? > > Regards, K. > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 > http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 > > GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 > Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:27:55 +1000 > From: Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> > To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ?? > Message-ID: > <927b4781-d29d-4e0f-91d0-62be6644e72a(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi All, I urgently need 4 or preferably 5 of these routers for an urgent > job and unfortunately they are out of stock for a couple of weeks still. > > Would anybody have stock that they could sell me by any chance ? > > Thanks > Paul > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:37:14 +1000 > From: Matt Perkins <matt(a)spectrum.com.au> > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ?? > Message-ID: <71398b33-5ee1-5272-e237-872be694b8b0(a)spectrum.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > I think you will find there is a big line for RB3011's and 2011's There > is not even any in the states. We got some from the Philipines a week > or so ago. But i think they are out now to. > > Matt. > > > On 24/08/2016 11:27 AM, Paul Julian wrote: > > Hi All, I urgently need 4 or preferably 5 of these routers for an urgent > job and unfortunately they are out of stock for a couple of weeks still. > > > > Would anybody have stock that they could sell me by any chance ? > > > > Thanks > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > -- > /* Matt Perkins > Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. > Office 1300 133 299 matt(a)spectrum.com.au > Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000 > Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance & TIO > */ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:08:22 +1000 > From: Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> > To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ?? > Message-ID: > <d7f21d1b-484a-4824-b15f-610ccdc53c80(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Mmm, not good, we are also waiting on 3011 but it's not as important, I > just really need some of the 2011's if I can get them, if we can't then the > customer will just have to wait. > > Regards > paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Matt Perkins > Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2016 11:37 AM > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Spare Routerboard RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN ?? > > I think you will find there is a big line for RB3011's and 2011's There > is not even any in the states. We got some from the Philipines a week or > so ago. But i think they are out now to. > > Matt. > > > On 24/08/2016 11:27 AM, Paul Julian wrote: > > Hi All, I urgently need 4 or preferably 5 of these routers for an urgent > job and unfortunately they are out of stock for a couple of weeks still. > > > > Would anybody have stock that they could sell me by any chance ? > > > > Thanks > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > > au > > > -- > /* Matt Perkins > Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. > Office 1300 133 299 matt(a)spectrum.com.au > Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000 > Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance & > TIO */ > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 30, Issue 6 > ************************************* > -- David Ryan - 0402 054 426 RJS Communications dsryan(a)rjs.com.au MTCNA, MTCWE, MTCRE

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finding out which bands are inuse?
by Karl Auer 13 Aug '16

13 Aug '16

It turns out that the place I wanted to deploy an SXT-LTE does in fact have 4G! Yay! But I note that the SXT-LTE supports only "the popular LTE FDD bands 3 (1800MHz) and 7 (2600MHz)". Does all 4G always use those bands, or do I have to check whether the 4G in this area uses those bands? If so, how? Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 30, Issue 4
by kevin＠scottsip.com.au 10 Aug '16

10 Aug '16

Ben, My 2cents for what it is worth, keep all cat 6/6a cabling including patch and fly leads to a 100mtr maximum. Cross talk, near end and far end cause retransmission of data slowing down. Over 100mtrs use fibre less hassle. Regards, Kevin Scott Scotts IP www.scottsip.com.au On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:31 PM +1000, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 10GBase-T SAN (Ben Jackson) 2. Re: 10GBase-T SAN (Alex Samad - Yieldbroker) 3. Re: 10GBase-T SAN (Paul Julian) 4. Re: 10GBase-T SAN (Murray Southwell) 5. Re: 10GBase-T SAN (Ben Jackson) 6. Re: 10GBase-T SAN (Ben Jackson) 7. Re: 10GBase-T SAN (Alex Samad - Yieldbroker) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:34:47 +1000 From: Ben Jackson To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben(a)elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 06:40:13 +0000 From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sounds interesting. Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of servers in the DC. I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with them compare to fibre. It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching. So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run Server -> switch ... DAC Switch -> storage .. DAC Alex -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben(a)elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:41:19 +1000 From: Paul Julian To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Message-ID: <3e81b614-4762-46ea-93f0-5d7d7ae8ab19(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Ben, I would always use fibre for anything more than a couple of metres on 10G, even for that I would use fibre. With the array of pre-terminated fibre cabling out now it's just as easy to run fibre as it is to run copper virtually, yes it costs a bit more but you can upgrade in the future with no cabling changes needed, it's a no brainer for us in such situations. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben(a)elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 06:52:23 +0000 From: Murray Southwell To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Ben, I would recommend DAC for inside your rack, and fibre for anything that leaves your rack at 10G. If you are looking to get faster than 1G to the desktop machines via an RJ45 copper connection, you can go faster than 1G without jumping all the way to 10G. If you have legacy CAT5e already installed 2.5G capable switches and NIC's should get you a significant speed boost between desktop and switch. Kind regards Murray Southwell -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben(a)elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:19:49 +1000 From: Ben Jackson To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Alex, Yep it would need to be 10g from end to end as the individual iMacs will need to reap the benefit of the extra bandwidth. I.e they will be the ones streaming large files from the SAN. My thoughts were to install thunderbolt 10gbe adaptors on each iMac to allow this. The advantage being that only one connection per mac would be needed as opposed to a fibre san which would need a separate fibre connection for each client? Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" wrote: > Sounds interesting. > > Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of > servers in the DC. > > I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I > can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They > have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with > them compare to fibre. > > It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching. > > So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run > > Server -> switch ... DAC > Switch -> storage .. DAC > > Alex > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson > Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN > > Hi all, > > I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of > my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to > 4k video collaboration). > > I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as > yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to > go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. > > My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to > me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be > convinced on the merits of running fibre. > > Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? > > Thanks, > > > Ben Jackson > eLogik > m:0404 924745 > e: ben(a)elogik.net > w: www.elogik.com.au > [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:25:22 +1000 From: Ben Jackson To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Paul. Do I need to go out and do a fibre installation course or could I just go ahead and do it with my current cabling knowledge? The premises is an old double brick building. What sorts of things do I need to be aware of when running fibre vs cat6? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Paul Julian" wrote: > Hi Ben, I would always use fibre for anything more than a couple of metres > on 10G, even for that I would use fibre. > > With the array of pre-terminated fibre cabling out now it's just as easy > to run fibre as it is to run copper virtually, yes it costs a bit more but > you can upgrade in the future with no cabling changes needed, it's a no > brainer for us in such situations. > > Regards > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson > Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN > > Hi all, > > I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of > my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to > 4k video collaboration). > > I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as > yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to > go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. > > My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to > me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be > convinced on the merits of running fibre. > > Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? > > Thanks, > > > Ben Jackson > eLogik > m:0404 924745 > e: ben(a)elogik.net > w: www.elogik.com.au > [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 07:30:17 +0000 From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hmm okay. So you have a bunch of Mac's that want fast file access. You are going to connect via iSCSI or nfs ? Sounds like you are in a building. So I still think 10G switch SAN storage attaches to it ( DAC cable(s) ) MAC to switch ... just like cat cabling, but run fibre... ??? but do the mac 10G adaptors do fibre ??? they might only be 10Gb-T. If so find a switch that has 10GBT and SFP+ (probably the SFP+ will be for stacking but use it to connect the NAS/SAN device). Then run fibre (or cat 6??) to the dekstops. Alex -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:20 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi Alex, Yep it would need to be 10g from end to end as the individual iMacs will need to reap the benefit of the extra bandwidth. I.e they will be the ones streaming large files from the SAN. My thoughts were to install thunderbolt 10gbe adaptors on each iMac to allow this. The advantage being that only one connection per mac would be needed as opposed to a fibre san which would need a separate fibre connection for each client? Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" wrote: > Sounds interesting. > > Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster > of servers in the DC. > > I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if > I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. > They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more > rough with them compare to fibre. > > It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching. > > So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run > > Server -> switch ... DAC > Switch -> storage .. DAC > > Alex > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson > Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN > > Hi all, > > I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one > of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio > and up to 4k video collaboration). > > I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks > as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is > required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. > > My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format > to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to > be convinced on the merits of running fibre. > > Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? > > Thanks, > > > Ben Jackson > eLogik > m:0404 924745 > e: ben(a)elogik.net > w: www.elogik.com.au > [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 30, Issue 4 *************************************

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10GBase-T SAN
by Ben Jackson 08 Aug '16

08 Aug '16

Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben(a)elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>

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RB962 wireless issue?
by Nick Pratley 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

Hi All, Recently upgraded the RB951 at home with a RB962 AC model. Ever since swapping this out, (running the same configuration), traffic to / from any device on wireless suffers high latency. There is absolutely no loss from the router to the server. Makes working on the server extremely difficult. Thought maybe a bridge issue, as I couldn't replicate from the mikrotik to the laptop, however left the pings running for a while this morning and it started from here also which makes it that much more interesting. Any ideas what this could be before I format and re-install the macbook? CPU at ~5%, have tried wireless-fp and wireless-cm2 packages. Haven't tried moving the laptop to the 2.4G AP as yet. .1 - mikrotik .10 - laptop .251 - server >From Mikrotik 0 192.168.15.10 56 64 213ms 1 192.168.15.10 56 64 33ms 2 192.168.15.10 56 64 59ms 3 192.168.15.10 56 64 79ms 4 192.168.15.10 56 64 109ms 5 192.168.15.10 56 64 128ms 6 192.168.15.10 56 64 151ms 7 192.168.15.10 56 64 170ms 0 192.168.15.10 56 64 213ms 1 192.168.15.10 56 64 33ms 2 192.168.15.10 56 64 59ms 3 192.168.15.10 56 64 79ms 4 192.168.15.10 56 64 109ms 5 192.168.15.10 56 64 128ms 6 192.168.15.10 56 64 151ms 7 192.168.15.10 56 64 170ms >From server 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=144 ttl=64 time=75.1 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=145 ttl=64 time=2.42 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=146 ttl=64 time=955 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=147 ttl=64 time=7507 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=148 ttl=64 time=6508 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=149 ttl=64 time=5508 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=150 ttl=64 time=4509 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=151 ttl=64 time=3509 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=152 ttl=64 time=2510 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=153 ttl=64 time=1510 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=154 ttl=64 time=511 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=155 ttl=64 time=138 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=156 ttl=64 time=2003 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=157 ttl=64 time=1003 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=158 ttl=64 time=4.11 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=159 ttl=64 time=27.7 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.10: icmp_seq=160 ttl=64 time=51.1 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.272 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.95 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.190 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.124 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.244 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.140 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.15.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.143 ms Cheers Nick

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Release notes?
by Karl Auer 31 Jul '16

31 Jul '16

This may be a stupid question but - where are the release notes for RouterOS? I need to know whether I can upgrade a client system to 6.36. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB

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New OpenSSH
by Karl Auer 31 Jul '16

31 Jul '16

After upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04, I found myself unable to log into MikroTik routers via ssh - mine and clients'. Most of the systems I support are on 5.24. The problem is that ssh no longer supports DSA by default. I'm not sure what the best solution is. By telling ssh to use DSA and also to allow smaller groups, I could get to a password prompt, but publickey logins still didn't work. These lines in ssh_config in a Host stanza or (not so good) globally: HostkeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group14-sha1 My current solution is to upgrade to RouterOS 6.36 and add an RSA public key. RSA has been supported since 6.31. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB

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Latest ROS Version
by Paul Julian 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

Hi guys, I noticed in the change log of the latest ROS version 6.36 it talks about wireless packages and needing to uninstall wireless-fp package before installing the upgrade, apart from a lot of changes in this one ! So apart from visiting all of our sites running this package so that we can connect via Ethernet to upgrade these routers does anybody have more information as to the impact or alternate options to achieve the upgrade over the wireless link ? *) wireless - wireless-fp is discontinued, it needs to be uninstalled/disabled before upgrade Regards Paul

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