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Wifi blackspot coverage improvement
by Ben Williams 24 Jun '16

24 Jun '16

Hey, I've got an RB951G-2HnD doing routing & wifi for my network. It's doing a great job. I'm in a very old house with double-brick internal walls everywhere, and I've got a black spot out the back I want to get better coverage for. What's the best option if I want to stick with Mikrotik gear? (Which of course I do :) ) - Ben

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Industrial data (Jeremy Hall)
by Jeremy Hall 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Hi Steve It's definitely possible to use a routerboard with a RS-232 port as a 'device serial server' - I have done so many times, usually to interface to an energy meter, inverter or other RS232 device. It's really easy to configure on the board. Something like: /port remote-access add allowed-addresses=0.0.0.0/0 log-file=serial port=serial0 protocol=raw tcp-port=10000 You can then use an application like VSPE ( http://www.eterlogic.com/Products.VSPE.html) to build a virtual serial port tunnel, which will create a fake local COM port. You'd just point your application at that local COM port. A box that does this off the shelf is called a 'serial device server'. The difference is that you are typically are given a proprietary application (varying in quality..) that creates the dummy COM port, and it will have additional settings to optimise for latency or throughput, additional serial options etc. A big advantage here is that these devices will support RS485 which may be better than using adapters. An entry level model is the O-Ring IDS-5012 at about AUD $120: http://www.oring-networking.com/product/cate.list/sn/102/Industrial%20Devic… If you can spring for more, Moxa and Perle are two other brands, though you'll likely pay at least double that. Note that when using a serial device server, we don't need to know or care about the protocol that is being used over serial - it just creates a 'serial tunnel'. However, for something that is specifically talking Modbus, as your device is is, then a better solution could be a device that converts from Modbus RTU/ASCII (over RS232 or RS285 serial) to Modbus TCP (over IP/ethernet). These devices are typically called 'gateways' and they understand well Modbus enough to pass requests on to slave devices. Using a gateway, it is possible for your application to make Modbus requests (over Modbus TCP_ to a device that is talking Modbus RTU or ACII (over serial). This can be very advantageous as the Modbus TCP packets can be sent over any IP network, sent over NAT, etc. One example of this is the O-Ring IDS-M311 on that same page above. One 'gotcha' with both the scenarios above is that if there is any problem in your network, and a modbus request or reply does not get through, it is lost. Modbus does not have any native provision for timestamping or sending multiple values - you ask for a register (offset address) and you get a value in reply. Depending on your application, intermittency like this may or may not be a problem. If it is, you might consider placing your datalogger or Modbus client closer to the device. There are thousands of dataloggers that have both Ethernet and RS485 connectivity and would be a drop-in solution, though such 'industrial' devices tend to get really expensive really quickly. One product that I can really recommend for this is Mango Automation, distributed by Infinite Automation. The free version of the software is limited to 25 Modbus TCP data points and I have run it comfortably on a Raspberry Pi. The commercial license is around US$400 but for not much more you can get an actual appliance which has the fully licensed software on it plus a RS-485 port. If you want to use the free version on a Raspberry Pi then any generic USB RS-485 adapter should work. There is a slight learning curve to the software but once set up it is incredibly robust and reliable. The Modbus library used (Modbus4J) is very clever and makes it very straightforward. Out of the box, you can monitor points, save them to a database, and generate charts. You can create alarm conditions and when triggered, you can fire off emails, set values of other points, or use scripting for powerful logic. You can configure also have reports sent via email that include charts and CSVs. There's even a RESTful API now that lets you retrieve data. Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like any further detail. I worked with the software professionally for a few years and am quite familiar with it, and very much a fan of it! Cheers Jeremy On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:00 PM, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Industrial data (Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)) > 2. Re: Industrial data (Russell Hurren) > 3. Re: Industrial data (Mike O'Connor) > 4. Re: Industrial data (Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)" <jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:00:35 +1000 > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Industrial data > I think if you can convert the RS485 to RS232 you can hook into a serial > port on one of the Routerboards that support serial. Then in the Mikrotik > settings you can hook this serial port up to a TCP port and connect to it > over telnet/WindowsVirtualCOMport/socat/netcat. > > So: > * Choose a Routerboard that supports Wifi and serial > * Set up the Other End to capture the data from the serial port over TCP/IP > using one of the above methods. > > Can you have your MOBUS application at the Other End hook up to a virtual > COM port in Windows? How do you want to capture or store the data? > > On 8 June 2016 at 11:48, Steve Hille <stevehille84(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Greetings all, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone has or is collecting data from MODBUS / RS485 or > > other type industrial electrical equipment using Mikrotik gear, or if it > is > > even possible? > > > > I'm thinking perhaps if I can somehow interface the MODBUS into a Groove > or > > something similar as a 'station' and then shoot the data off to my access > > point, we will be able to collect data from this industrial equipment, > just > > hoping for some gotchas before I really get into it. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > > -- > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Russell Hurren <russell(a)zeropointnetworks.com> > To: "'MikroTik Australia Public List'" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:02:15 +0800 > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Industrial data > Hi Steve > > I've never done it, but I presume you'd use something like this: > > > http://www.emtec.com.au/serial-and-usb/serial-to-ethernet-servers/single-po… > > Then it's just a case of plugging it into the network (whether that's into > a Groove or something else), installing the RealPort software on a computer > and then collect data as though that computer was connected directly. > > Regards > > Russell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Steve Hille > Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 09:49 > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Industrial data > > Greetings all, > > I'm wondering if anyone has or is collecting data from MODBUS / RS485 or > other type industrial electrical equipment using Mikrotik gear, or if it is > even possible? > > I'm thinking perhaps if I can somehow interface the MODBUS into a Groove > or something similar as a 'station' and then shoot the data off to my > access point, we will be able to collect data from this industrial > equipment, just hoping for some gotchas before I really get into it. > > Cheers, > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)oeg.com.au> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 11:38:05 +0930 > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Industrial data > On 8/06/2016 11:18 AM, Steve Hille wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has or is collecting data from MODBUS / RS485 or >> other type industrial electrical equipment using Mikrotik gear, or if it >> is >> even possible? >> >> I'm thinking perhaps if I can somehow interface the MODBUS into a Groove >> or >> something similar as a 'station' and then shoot the data off to my access >> point, we will be able to collect data from this industrial equipment, >> just >> hoping for some gotchas before I really get into it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Steve >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >> > > Hi Steve > > I have no idea about Mikrotik gear but I've done this sort of things for > years using a number of different boards running Linux. Nowdays RPI is a > good option. > > I've written tools which will run as a mobus master or slave, talking TCP > or RTU. Some of the code for this is on github at > https://github.com/latproc/clockwork > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)" <jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:08:37 +1000 > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Industrial data > I'll add have a look at the Port feature in the Mikrotik. > > http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Port > > > > On 8 June 2016 at 11:48, Steve Hille <stevehille84(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Greetings all, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone has or is collecting data from MODBUS / RS485 or > > other type industrial electrical equipment using Mikrotik gear, or if it > is > > even possible? > > > > I'm thinking perhaps if I can somehow interface the MODBUS into a Groove > or > > something similar as a 'station' and then shoot the data off to my access > > point, we will be able to collect data from this industrial equipment, > just > > hoping for some gotchas before I really get into it. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > >

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Industrial data
by Steve Hille 08 Jun '16

08 Jun '16

Greetings all, I'm wondering if anyone has or is collecting data from MODBUS / RS485 or other type industrial electrical equipment using Mikrotik gear, or if it is even possible? I'm thinking perhaps if I can somehow interface the MODBUS into a Groove or something similar as a 'station' and then shoot the data off to my access point, we will be able to collect data from this industrial equipment, just hoping for some gotchas before I really get into it. Cheers, Steve

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Port Mirroring on a Virtual MT
by Dave Browning 01 Jun '16

01 Jun '16

Hi Guys, How does one do port mirroring on a virtual mikro? Looked at http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Switch_Chip_Features#Port_Mirroring but the '/interface ethernet switch' command isn’t available. Dave Browning | Network Engineer P 07 3369 7666 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you received this email in error please notify Sentrian Pty Ltd immediately by return email to the sender and delete the original email. We do not guarantee that this email or any attached files are free of viruses. All recipients should undertake their own virus scanning.

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Need help with IPSec (and AWS VPN)
by Karl Auer 01 Jun '16

01 Jun '16

I am trying to get an AWS VPN going to a MikroTik. I have gotten *so close* - AWS says the tunnel is UP, I see valid SAs at my end, I can even ping across the link - but only from the router. Not from within my network. I feel it just has to be some simple NAT or firewall thing, but I've run out of ideas. If anyone out there would be prepared to help, I'd be most grateful. Call me any time on 0-65947435, or email me and I'll call you... Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer(a)nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB

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Windows 7 w/ WPA2-Enterprise
by Dave Browning 01 Jun '16

01 Jun '16

Hi All, Has anyone been able to get Windows 7 (and probably Windows 8) to authenticate to a Mikrotik CAPsMAN deployment whereby the authentication is via Radius to NPS? From what I can see NPS accepts and allows the request (getting Reason-Code 0). Windows 10 works fine, phones and macs work fine. Have tried this, https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Encryption_and_Authentication/Enabling_… The log on the Mikrotik when it tries to connect is; disconnected, received deauth: unspecified (1) Cheers, Dave Dave Browning | Network Engineer P 07 3369 7666 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you received this email in error please notify Sentrian Pty Ltd immediately by return email to the sender and delete the original email. We do not guarantee that this email or any attached files are free of viruses. All recipients should undertake their own virus scanning.

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queues I cant get my head around
by Patrick Sayer 26 May '16

26 May '16

I want to stop any given hotspot user from maxing out the upload bandwidth on a connection (ADSL2+ in most cases). I dont want to have to add queues for each user as this obviously changes. I don't really want to rely on the burst settings as this is time based and if the user is the only one using bandwidth they will get limited after the burst time is used up regardless if noone else wants bandwidth at that time still. What I would like to see happens is each user is allocated a minimum amount of bandwidth (like PCQ can do), but allow them to burst indefinitely rather than on a timed basis. And if multiple users try to use bandwidth then the burst they receive gets shared in the same way that PCQ is doing in the first place. Having 10 users in a PCQ list with a total of 1Mbit bandwidth will limit each user to 100Kbps even if only one of them is using the system at the time from what I can see, and this is not a desired outcome. Does this explanation make sense and has anyone come up with a solution along those lines? Thanks in Advance, Patrick

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bgp peering with cisco
by Alex Samad - Yieldbroker 26 May '16

26 May '16

Hi Wonder if any one has come across any issue with MED attribute not been see from a cisco router. I have a client saying they are setting the MED attribute on a prefix and its not showing up on my end. Alex

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Re: [MT-AU Public] VDSL modems
by Stephen Schwetz 20 May '16

20 May '16

Most NBN fftn providers will give you an VDSL modem when you sign up. These have been fully tested with the NBN, and most support bridging out of the box, excluding OPTUS, but it can be bridged with some reading and trial and error. My sagemcomm from OPTUS is rock solid and has not needed a reboot in bridged mode since it was installed in Jan On 20 May 2016 16:34, "Mike Everest" <mike(a)duxtel.com> wrote: Hi Folks, A few months back, I asked for opinions on a good adsl modem to use a bridge for MikroTik PPPoE. With increase in prevalence of VDSL services (especially with #nbwhen ;) does anyone have some opinion of readily available and 'good' (not necessarily cheap ;) vdsl modems? Cheers! Mike. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au

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EOIP Epic Fail
by Paul Julian 17 May '16

17 May '16

Hi guys, thought I would post this information to see if anybody had experienced the same issue. We have an RB1100AHx2 in a data centre that connects to a CCR in another data centre, unfortunately we can't do QINQ between the DC's so we run an EOIP tunnel to connect two vlans for a customer through to there, all has been working fine for about 2 years. The other day, just out of the blue, the customer said their link had gone down, after a number of hours troubleshooting, convinced that it was a problem on site, we discovered that the EOIP tunnel just stopped passing traffic. Nothing had changed on those two routers for months but all of a sudden they just stopped working. The CCR has some other EOIP tunnels on it which were still working fine, but the 1100 was refusing to work. We checked firewall rules, vlan ID's, tunnel ID's, everything, and there were no issues, the tunnel just refused to pass data. I tried changing the tunnel ID and it made no difference, tried re-adding the vlans to it, nothing, disabled and enabled it, nothing made a difference. Out of desperation we created a new EOIP tunnel on that router with a new ID and pointed it to the existing EOIP interface at the other end and it came up straight away. So apart from a big WTF, has anybody experienced this before ? Regards Paul

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